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Can this be for real? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,560501,00.htmlThe Federal Trade Commission will try to regulate blogging for the first time, requiring writers on the Web to clearly disclose any freebies or payments they get from companies for reviewing their products.
The FTC said Monday its commissioners voted 4-0 to approve the final Web guidelines, which had been expected. Violating the rules, which take effect Dec. 1, could bring fines up to $11,000 per violation. Bloggers or advertisers also could face injunctions and be ordered to reimburse consumers for financial losses stemming from inappropriate product reviews.
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury."
-Alexander Fraser Tytler
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2009, 09:57:33 PM » |
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baby steps
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Yes, I do rock!
That is all I care about. Destroying bitches linguistically, every single day.
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2009, 09:58:13 PM » |
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Very for real. I should probably disclose at this point that I was, at one time, paid as much as Ten Million Dollars by The Hideout....
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I for ONE am DOWN with the ELROSS periodic capitalization TECHNIQUE!
straight-up, uber-partisan, idiot.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2009, 06:32:26 AM » |
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chipping away at it
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 07:27:02 AM » |
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2009, 07:15:45 PM » |
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Good. Then medical claims based on anecdotal evidence only and posted in blogs as true will be fined.
Now they need to go after the same thing on TV & Radio.
I'm so sick of hearing Drunky give credit to a laser-pen for him quitting smoking, and Russ give credit to a pill for his weight loss.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2009, 07:42:17 PM » |
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I'm so sick of hearing Drunky give credit to a laser-pen for him quitting smoking, and Russ give credit to a pill for his weight loss.
you mean you are fed up now? After all these years, NOW is the time you decide to get fed up. |
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the one time I don't go all word-whore.. LOL
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2009, 07:46:36 PM » |
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Now they need to go after the same thing on TV & Radio.
baby steps |
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2009, 08:24:08 PM » |
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Good. Then medical claims based on anecdotal evidence only and posted in blogs as true will be fined.
Now they need to go after the same thing on TV & Radio.
I'm so sick of hearing Drunky give credit to a laser-pen for him quitting smoking, and Russ give credit to a pill for his weight loss.
Are you saying crazy laser didn't give him the motivation he needed to quit smoking? Are you also saying that a pill can't help you loose weight or suppress your appetite? Oh yeah "medical claims based on anecdotal evidence only" has nothing to do with this regulation. |
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2009, 06:39:50 PM » |
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Are you saying crazy laser didn't give him the motivation he needed to quit smoking?
Are you also saying that a pill can't help you loose weight or suppress your appetite?
Oh yeah "medical claims based on anecdotal evidence only" has nothing to do with this regulation.
No... Motivation is not the same as medical evidence. Placebo Try to cure liver damage with a placebo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0 |
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2009, 09:10:19 AM » |
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Are you saying crazy laser didn't give him the motivation he needed to quit smoking?
Are you also saying that a pill can't help you loose weight or suppress your appetite?
Oh yeah "medical claims based on anecdotal evidence only" has nothing to do with this regulation.
the problem is.. there are a massive amount of bloggers that get free stuff or are paid if they say something works to entice their readers into buying the product that doesn't work.... we have teh same standards on TV.. all the infomercials have to say "Paid Advertisement" .. blogs never had to do that... now they do.. As a blogger I don't like it..but as a consumer, I see the need for it.. besides, if I use a product and like it and plan on telling ppl.. it's not hard for me to disclose that I have or haven't been paid by company to give my opinion of it.. What's not fair is someone I read and trust the word of...... getting paid to lie to me and get me to buy a product that's really a piece of shit..all because the more they pimp the crap product, the more money they get in kickbacks.. |
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No matter how hard you try, you can't baptize cats
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2009, 11:41:21 AM » |
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the problem is.. there are a massive amount of bloggers that get free stuff or are paid if they say something works to entice their readers into buying the product that doesn't work....
we have teh same standards on TV.. all the infomercials have to say "Paid Advertisement" .. blogs never had to do that... now they do..
As a blogger I don't like it..but as a consumer, I see the need for it.. besides, if I use a product and like it and plan on telling ppl.. it's not hard for me to disclose that I have or haven't been paid by company to give my opinion of it..
What's not fair is someone I read and trust the word of...... getting paid to lie to me and get me to buy a product that's really a piece of shit..all because the more they pimp the crap product, the more money they get in kickbacks..
Oh I agree with this particular regulation. I was just trying to point you that what EE was talking about had nothing to do with the regulation mentioned in this story. |
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lil mike
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2009, 06:56:03 PM » |
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the problem is.. there are a massive amount of bloggers that get free stuff or are paid if they say something works to entice their readers into buying the product that doesn't work....
we have teh same standards on TV.. all the infomercials have to say "Paid Advertisement" .. blogs never had to do that... now they do..
As a blogger I don't like it..but as a consumer, I see the need for it.. besides, if I use a product and like it and plan on telling ppl.. it's not hard for me to disclose that I have or haven't been paid by company to give my opinion of it..
What's not fair is someone I read and trust the word of...... getting paid to lie to me and get me to buy a product that's really a piece of shit..all because the more they pimp the crap product, the more money they get in kickbacks..
That's interesting. So you think you rights as a consumer trump your or anyone's first amendment rights? Interesting. So you would not consider yourself a civil libertarian? *edit* and another view http://overlawyered.com/2009/10/required-ftc-blogger-disclosure/ |
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2009, 08:57:14 PM » |
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must you disagree with everything? as a blogger I do not like it.. I'd love to be able to say and do anything I wanted with no restrictions,no limits, no laws.. but then I'd also like to yell FIRE in a crowded room just to see what happened... -that would be the anarchist in me.. As a consumer.. I don't see a difference in what paid TV spots have to do and what this law is saying bloggers have to do.. I would like to even expand it to the medical profession.. if doc's are getting kick backs and paid to pimp the latest and maybe-not greatest drug for a vacation in Bora-Bora, they should have to disclose it.. if one party is getting paid to con everyone else.. it's not free speech.. it's a bought and paid for commercial and we should be aware of that... no one is saying bloggers can't get paid to try or paid to pimp, they're just saying you have to disclose that you are getting some kind of payment for your opinion.. Jesus...you like pyramid and ponzi schemes to don't you? |
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lil mike
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2009, 10:27:03 PM » |
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must you disagree with everything?
as a blogger I do not like it.. I'd love to be able to say and do anything I wanted with no restrictions,no limits, no laws.. but then I'd also like to yell FIRE in a crowded room just to see what happened... -that would be the anarchist in me..
As a consumer.. I don't see a difference in what paid TV spots have to do and what this law is saying bloggers have to do.. I would like to even expand it to the medical profession.. if doc's are getting kick backs and paid to pimp the latest and maybe-not greatest drug for a vacation in Bora-Bora, they should have to disclose it..
if one party is getting paid to con everyone else.. it's not free speech.. it's a bought and paid for commercial and we should be aware of that... no one is saying bloggers can't get paid to try or paid to pimp, they're just saying you have to disclose that you are getting some kind of payment for your opinion..
Jesus...you like pyramid and ponzi schemes to don't you?
No I don't like ponzi schemes, but I'm the one who wants to stop funding social security with one... topic for another time... I'm not being disagreeable. At least not on purpose. I was really surprised that you are taking the position you are. First of all, the first question that comes to mind is on what basis does the FTC have to regulate speech on the internet? Where did that come from? And if we accept it, then we are tacitly accepting that speech can be regulated on the internet? At least according to the article, this wasn't about deceptive business practices, just the fact that you got some freebies taints you. I don't know. My gut tells me this is bad thing, but I don't have the trust in leviathan state that you do. |
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