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GLENDALE, California (AP) -- A 17-year-old died just hours after her health insurance company reversed its decision not to pay for a liver transplant that doctors said the girl needed.
Nataline Sarkisyan died Thursday night at about 6 p.m. at University of California, Los Angeles, Medical Center. She had been in a vegetative state for weeks, said her mother, Hilda.
"She passed away, and the insurance (company) is responsible for this," she said.
"They took my daughter away from me," said Nataline's father, Krikor, who appeared at a news conference Friday with his 21-year-old son, Bedros.
Mark Geragos, attorney for the girl's family, said he plans to ask the district attorney to press murder or manslaughter charges against Cigna HealthCare in the case. The insurer "maliciously killed her" because it did not want to bear the expense of her transplant and aftercare, Geragos said.
Nataline had been battling leukemia and received a bone marrow transplant from her brother. She developed a complication, however, that caused her liver to fail.
Doctors at UCLA determined she needed a transplant and sent a letter to CIGNA Healthcare on December 11. The Philadelphia-based health insurance company denied payment for the transplant.
On Thursday, about 150 teenagers and nurses protested outside CIGNA's office in Glendale. As the protesters rallied, the company reversed its decision and said it would approve the transplant.
Despite the reversal, CIGNA said in an e-mail statement before she died that there was a lack of medical evidence showing the procedure would work in Nataline's case.
"Our hearts go out to Nataline and her family, as they endure this terrible ordeal," the company said. " ... CIGNA HealthCare has decided to make an exception in this rare and unusual case and we will provide coverage should she proceed with the requested liver transplant."
In their letter, the UCLA doctors said patients in situations similar to Nataline's who undergo transplants have a six-month survival rate of about 65 percent.
District attorney spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons declined to comment on Geragos' planned request for murder or manslaughter charges, saying it would be inappropriate to do so until Geragos submits evidence supporting the request.
Officials with CIGNA could not immediately be reached for comment Thursday
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2007, 07:31:55 PM » |
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I thought I saw O.J. at that news conference.
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2007, 07:33:36 PM » |
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I thought I saw O.J. at that news conference.
I knew that name looked familiar! |
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You're right. Presidents typically nominate people who agree with their views.
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2007, 08:33:42 PM » |
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We need "insurance reform" for this case? What sort of reform do you have in mind (as if I didn't already know...)?
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2007, 08:47:40 PM » |
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GLENDALE, California (AP) -- A 17-year-old died just hours after her health insurance company reversed its decision not to pay for a liver transplant that doctors said the girl needed.
In their letter, the UCLA doctors said patients in situations similar to Nataline's who undergo transplants have a six-month survival rate of about 65 percent.
THAT moron faggot is exactly why mutha fuckin health care costs so god damned much. There is no fucking justification for that expense for someone who is gonna kick well within the year. Sorry hun, your time to die, buh by. |
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2007, 08:58:06 PM » |
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THAT moron old lady is exactly why mutha fuckin health care costs so god damned much. There is no fucking justification for that expense for someone to hear who is gonna kick well within the year. Sorry hun, your time to die, buh by.
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2007, 12:59:23 AM » |
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Not to be cold hearted... but...
When trying to sway public opinion, a better case study should be chosen.
And please... report all the facts. Not just the ones that support the insurance company being evil.
A) She had leukemia. It went into remission and then came back. Then, her lungs failed.
B) She was in a coma (She had been in a vegetative state for weeks)
C) Her parents removed life support, causing the young girl to expire.
D) Why didn't the doctors do it Pro-Bono if it was such an important operation?
E) What are the actual details of the operation that could make it "Experimental"?
Putting a new liver in this girl would have been like putting brand new seats in a car that had a blown engine, a busted transmission, and a rusting interior.
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2007, 11:43:17 AM » |
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Not to be cold hearted... but...
When trying to sway public opinion, a better case study should be chosen.
And please... report all the facts. Not just the ones that support the insurance company being evil.
A) She had leukemia. It went into remission and then came back. Then, her lungs failed.
B) She was in a coma (She had been in a vegetative state for weeks)
C) Her parents removed life support, causing the young girl to expire.
D) Why didn't the doctors do it Pro-Bono if it was such an important operation?
E) What are the actual details of the operation that could make it "Experimental"?
Putting a new liver in this girl would have been like putting brand new seats in a car that had a blown engine, a busted transmission, and a rusting interior.
But you could have sat in that piece of shit car with new comfy seats atleast. From what i heard more of this story last night on the Jerry Doyle show, they said they wanted the D.A. to look into criminal charges against this insurance company.. |
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2007, 12:25:36 PM » |
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Terri Schiavo all over again. The proponents of her care should have offered up their money and paid for her treatment and care. Much like those idiots at the abortion clinic down the street from my office. Marching around promoting their agenda instead of taking care of the already abused and neglected children who are here.
Would asshat fit here?
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2007, 01:32:07 PM » |
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Putting a new liver in this girl would have been like putting brand new seats in a car that had a blown engine, a busted transmission, and a rusting interior.
What an evil mutha fucker you are. Millions should have been spent so this cunt could live in a coma for a couple more days. |
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2007, 01:47:59 PM » |
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Wait. I might be off, but didn't this girl have insurance, but they refused to pay because they considered it "experimental", right? If this is the case, then she had a problem with a private company. We don't need insurance reform for every citizen in the US because of these "one in a million" cases. She had the wrong insurance, and that's that.
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2007, 02:41:01 PM » |
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Wait. I might be off, but didn't this girl have insurance, but they refused to pay because they considered it "experimental", right? If this is the case, then she had a problem with a private company. We don't need insurance reform for every citizen in the US because of these "one in a million" cases. She had the wrong insurance, and that's that.
So, the doctor's couldn't put the liver in and sort it out with the paperwork afterwards? I know in Florida if you go to the hospital you can't be turned away just because you don't have insurance. Is it the same where she is? |
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2007, 04:00:02 PM » |
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So, the doctor's couldn't put the liver in and sort it out with the paperwork afterwards?
I know in Florida if you go to the hospital you can't be turned away just because you don't have insurance. Is it the same where she is?
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2007, 05:05:36 PM » |
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Not to be cold hearted... but...
When trying to sway public opinion, a better case study should be chosen.
And please... report all the facts. Not just the ones that support the insurance company being evil.
A) She had leukemia. It went into remission and then came back. Then, her lungs failed.
B) She was in a coma (She had been in a vegetative state for weeks)
C) Her parents removed life support, causing the young girl to expire.
D) Why didn't the doctors do it Pro-Bono if it was such an important operation?
E) What are the actual details of the operation that could make it "Experimental"?
Putting a new liver in this girl would have been like putting brand new seats in a car that had a blown engine, a busted transmission, and a rusting interior.
Did you mention that giving a new liver to a person that was prob going to die anyways might keep a liver away from someone that can actually use it. this can actually be a case where the insurance company involvement helped a healthy person get this liver that under free livers for everyone would have be wasted. again, not to be cold hearted, but .... |
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2007, 05:21:27 PM » |
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Did you mention that giving a new liver to a person that was prob going to die anyways might keep a liver away from someone that can actually use it.
this can actually be a case where the insurance company involvement helped a healthy person get this liver that under free livers for everyone would have be wasted.
again, not to be cold hearted, but ....
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